Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .308 Win 18" 1:11" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41750. I know its very high end but with a replaced hip and knee, I want anchored shots and believe that cartridge is a slight upgrade on the venerable 300WM. The redesigned rifle includes all the original features that. I was really looking at the Waypoint before so would you recommend that now or another? Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. Great review. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. Surprisingly accurate. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. If I were buying a new hunting rifle today and I could drop $2,300, Id pick the Fierce Rogue with a steel action. I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and love it as my go-to big game hunting rifle. Id probably go with the Bergara Wilderness Ridge. and the weathermark? Going to take the plungedeep. I own a 6.5-.300 Wby and reload my own ammo. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. I have been looking for a carbon barrel rifle in a .308 due to ammo availability. Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. what makes it a Bergara? If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. I bought a Tikka M550 in 308 while stationed in Germany back in 1984. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. I have found a lot of draw backs such as a cramped magazine box that when I tried to seat bullets out there was no room in the magazine to do so therefore I had excess bullet jump into the throat of the barrel, especially older barrels with slightly eroded throats and not being able to seat the bullet out sometimes does not give you the best accuracy. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. Threaded barrel for a brake. Just how it shot when the time came. Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) The controlled-round feed action is great. Hey Jim, Thanks again and I look forward to future content. Not impressed with the plastic trigger guard also because I have broken one on a different rifle and it was a pain in the rear to source. Seller: Ammo And Arms. #1. Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. Wondering if you have a reason for this Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. My assumption has been that given the limited rifles and ammos out, the x-bolt with browning ammo would have to work well together right out of the box. I appreciate the blunt honesty. Good read. Shut up Vlad. Barrett, AI, etc. I got mine during their initial recall for $199. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. 2. have a metal finish at the trigger-guard, bolt throw. Have you heard any news about springfield adding additional calibers for it? Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. I personally prefer the Bergara B-14 Ridge, but they are all good options. Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. Nor do my groups appear to be outliers for the Momentum. Hey Jim, love your reviews and videos, just wondering when we might start seeing 7mm PRC rifles becoming more available in stores? Thanks! He lives outside of Austin, TX. Im looking for another LR hunting rifle and was seriously looking at Christianson arms but not so much now. May 7, 2018. I am over 50 now an i have owned and hunted 21 different rifles, that will be all brands from Rem 700, Browning , tikka, several Blasers and Sakos, Heym and some more. So where are you from originally and where are you now..Im thinking not the US. Magazine Comparison: The Browning X-Bolt features a 4 round detachable polymer rotary magazine. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. Leave the modern made junk guns to the young and inexperienced people which results in the good stuff out there being more plentiful for us old foxes that know what a quality gun is and what a reliable one is. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. My mossberg patriot shoots like a custom rifle. The build quality was amazing, and shot sub MOA with factory Norma ammo. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. Any opinion on it? It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. Nor did it entirely love the excellent Hornady Black ammo, putting two rounds through the O that I was aiming at and three in another very tight group some distance away. Thanks so much, you guys are great! Keep up the good work! Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. And although most of my center fires are Deluxe grade, the aforementioned still holds true. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. What would you like to know? Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. What do you think of the weight of the gun compared to some of these lightweight carbon stocks? Fierce is about $400 more and almost a pound heavier. Again one star better than average in this category, but it still leaves plenty of room for improvement. Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. The Bergara B14 Wilderness with adjustable cheek piece would be a great choice, as well as anything in the Bergara Premier Series. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. Thanks for the content you put out! Some day Ill give one a more fair look. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. Mine shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads, Available in: 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, 300 Win Mag. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. Its a good quality scope for shooting out to 300 yards but doesnt have adjustable turrets so if youll want to do some long-distance shooting, order it without a scope. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. Thank you for your time and consideration of this request. I think a majority of Americans know the old saying you just took a paragraph to explain. I just took the first shots with the Winchester XPR in 6.8 Western today. Hi Jim, Optional Features TSA Recoil Pads TSA recoil pads for LOP adjustment. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. A fine rifle like this is perfect for beating to shit while you learn the other basics. Dont get me wrong. What? What are your thought on the Ruger precision? An XBolt in 6.8 Western may be a great option. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. While I believe theyve succeeded in creating a stock that accommodates many different shooting positions and feels above average in all, it doesnt necessary excel in any of them. Do you think this is normal business practice ? Will the new/faster twist rates make a difference to users? It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc We have a complete post on the best rifles under $400 right here. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. Keep them coming! And true to their ads, it is a sub-MOA shooter. I was about to buy a Christenson Arms rifle but you and a few others have commented about the quality. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. A very accurate danish produced rifle. Things happen and every animal is different, but I feel like its my duty to show that respect. CVA all the way. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. I am really interested in a waypoint. Gunwerks builds great guns, but I just dont see them as being THOUSANDS of dollars better than a Fierce, Weatherby, Seekins, etc. I have Burris rings for a Tikka T3 base which are basically the same as the Zee rings. I really have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel and reading some of your articles on backfire! Not many have been around since they are new this year. Thank you for your time and effort. Along with it is 2-position safety that . Sure, you can have better fit and finish, but it costs more. Hi Jim, I really like the trigger feel, but it is a little heavy. Am I wrong in my logic? The more you talk the clearer it becomes that youve never held much less used a gun. The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. Ruger precision is really heavy for hunting, but a cool rifle. Like, sure. I was considering the Sig Cross, but the safe selector issue concerns me. Great reviews, but nothing on the Browning AB3? The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. But I cant understand why offering left handed guns seems impossible to some manufacturers. Both have cold hammer forged barrels 2. Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size. Meet the Franchi Momentum Bolt-Action Rifle. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. Ive never shot one that couldnt achieve a 1 group at 100 yards. But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. Its like the girl you almost dated because you were such good friends and got along with great, but just never could fall in love with. Jim love your channel. Id prefer 7mm-08, but 6.5 is the newest kid on the block. Are you familiar with this cartridge? I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. As did locking it. Its for my 3 teenage daughters (all first year deer tag draws) . Ive owned a Lupo chambered in 30-06 for several months now. If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. The trigger is heavy, but thats true on the Browning XBolts as well. The new Elite versions now feature detachable box magazines, Cerakote metal finishes and stocks wearing popular camo patterns. Overall * * * * All are captive so you wont lose them. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. They are also slippery when wet and ice cold to touch in winter. Base Price: $816.99: Tax: - In Stock: Back in stock . Swelled and checkered grip areas are molded into both sides of the stock over the internal magazine and again at the beginning of the forearm section. Not a Sako to be seen ? For my boy. Great choices, Andrew. I recently had a chance to sight it in and run everything over the chronograph . Looks great. Jim, Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Travis Skurray from Australia. Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. Most of the great rifles youve taken time to make us salivate for do not make left handed models. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. What is your opinion on this gun? Jim, Watch my review here. I have been trying to get a Waypoint. have you try the weatherby mark v accumark in 300 win mag? I like the Bergara B-14 ridge. Might want to hold off a month or so. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. Way sub-MOA. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. Great rifle. Threaded barrel, cerakote barrel, hand painted stock. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. I want your opinion on there trigger system. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? The Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle also has a 1-piece 1913 Picatinny rail that permits flexible accommodation of various aftermarket optics. The Weatherby Vanguard comes in several different editions. Plus all the pros of the above B-14 review. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. I owned one and sold it. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. There is one drawback to the Tikka T3x Lite. Phil. Appreciate the comment. Overall, it seems like a decent gun for the price. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. Italian? But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. Wont win any extra points for its weight but seems like a quality affordable and very accurate rifle. I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. Its not for me. Have you or will you be doing a video on Franchi hunting rifles. As you can see I am a gun collector and have not used my 7 mm Mag. Have you considered the recently released rifles introduced by Franchi? Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. Iv shot most all The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. **sorry for posting this comment on another article, but I guess this is the more suitable article for this discussion. Thanks and keep up the great content! I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. . (The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) Or, even better if your choice cost less. The action quality, as well as the barrel, produces a very accurate rifle. 150 grain federal fusion groups sub 1inch or better every time. So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. (Live in northern Alberta.) I knew an unknown secret that they did not know, its called grease and oil. The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. Just hasnt been available. Jim, I think you misspoke about the Ultralite. Usage for the rifle would be long distance hobby shooting, but also potentially taking it on everything from whitetail up to moose for a hunt should I ever get in to the sport with my brothers and dad. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Jim, It seems to boast a sturdier stock. I agree with you 100 percent it is a home run for Springfield!!! Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. I do have a question that I hope you will address. Im a big fan of Sig pistols and never had an issue with QC. love the mauser style trigger guard/magazine. Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. JavaScript is disabled. Franchi is known for making high-quality firearms at affordable prices, and the Momentum Elite is the perfect example of this. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. It is very expensive. I bought the MarkV Weathermark LT in the .257 WBY. I loved the way it shot and felt. I can not find on your website. A shiny one. I looked it up and the barrel profile is exactly the same for bigger calibers. I am not sure, or saying one is better than the other, but that was something that bothered me. How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? guns.com Buy. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. I think the rifle is feature rich and might be a real shooter. Thats unfortunate because theyre chamberimg it in 7PRC. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. Ive never seen Sea Adler anywhere in the US, do you know if theyre imported? Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. or browning. Twist Rate: 1:11 Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. With plain Jane 55 grain hornady soft points and max listed load of H4895, it shoots 1/4 to 3/8 at 100 yards if I lay off the coffee. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. You must log in or register to reply here. $699.00. Have you reviewed one yet? Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. Can you review the Sako S20 or why havent you done it yet? It can be tough to watch all the individual reviews of rifles that I do on Youtube and get a sense for where each rifle stacks up on the Jim Scale, so in this post, Ill give it to you straight. There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. Those are cool, but very heavy guns. Gear up as your favorite Delsin Rowe Vest. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In the end I still believe the 7mm RM is more versatile. Jim, based on your reviews and several others, Id really like go with the 6.8 Western. I like the reviews on the CVA but the Bergara is hard to beat, the Terrain Wilderness is the one Im leaning towards. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle break.MOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. As i get older i am now back to 6,555 and 8x57IS and 308win when it come to calibers but that is more related to the hunting i do than the rifles .Love your tube videos and the fact that you have your own opinions an are not afraid to tell everyone about them. Theres also the option of ordering that rifle with a Vortex Crossfire II scope on it. Dumb! i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. So not sure what went wrong with the patriot, and I dont really use the ATR except for friends to use but it is a hell of an accurate rifle. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. Chambered in .308 Winchester, the author's Franchi Momentum has a 22-inch barrel with a threaded muzzle and a black synthetic stock with a recoil pad and integral sling-swivel studs. If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. One might think that in this price range, youd have a multitude of choices, but in my opinion, there are really only three hunting rifles Id consider.